1 (edited by fxwinner 2010-04-30 00:28:07)

Topic: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

This topic moved to http://forexsb.com/forum/post/4921/#p4921
As it has appropriate name for this issue : "Difference between life trading and FSB results"
I will abondent this one, please post your feedback to the topic mentioned above. Thx.
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Hi, forum.
Strategy Builder opens trades based on "OPEN BAR",
However when I imported strategy to Strategy trader it opens positions based on tick data.
Which obviously not right as all back testing was performed on M30 Bars, to oppose to the tick data.
I'm running 3 instances as you can see from the picture.
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How, I can resolve this issues, and trade only OPEN-BAR, instead of TICK?

Many thanks.
FxWinner

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

I'm running side by side Strategy Tester and Trader, and I can see despondency in the trading.
Trader opened position which is not listed in strategy tester.
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1298/20100425-foco-138kb.jpg
any one have the same issue?
Thx.

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

I will update post tomorrow morning, let's see that the difference between Trader and Builder.

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

Are you running the MT4-FST expert on a 30 min chart. It looks like an 1 min chart.

Try to start the expert on the correct time frame. (The same as the one used for testing the strategy with FSB.)

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

Hi Miroslav, many thanks for your quick response.
I run EAs on exact TF they were created, please see full configuration below:
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1298/20100426-6pzi-165kb.jpg

It is strange it opens positions not on next bar OPEN, as in  strategy it is clearly stated.
This is updated FSB positions results:
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1298/20100426-yyfh-164kb.jpg
Any one see difference between MT4 and FSB?

6 (edited by fxwinner 2010-04-26 13:20:36)

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

the results are very different between Trader and Builder.
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1298/20100426-hslt-192kb.jpg
Any one has real experience trading FSB strategies?
The idea is great, I have been waiting for almost a year! Thanks Miroslav, but sill needs some work done.

##Did you notice how FSB opened Short at 9:00 and 14:00 and closed it with small lose/profit at the same minute, looking at the price it is the same price, there should be no profit and secondly bars closes at x:29 or x:59 not at x:00 or x:30
strategy closing logic is "BAR Closing" and then indicators conditions.
Does not seem to be right. Even it if closes at the same price it needs to pay Spread.
I'm not talking about spread size is 10 times less as it configured.
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1298/20100426-fhjb-57kb.jpg

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

This seems like a serious issue and should be adressed. Additionally this makes me wonder if anyone really live-trades the FSB strategies with FST?

8 (edited by fxwinner 2010-04-26 19:27:59)

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

if we can fix this bugs I would gladly trade, I waited one year to get Trader created. might wait another one till its bug free, I can put all my efforts to fixing it (or pointing to bugs, sorry I'm not a coder)
don't see corrolation between FSB and FST
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1298/20100426-m5pp-172kb.jpg
Let's see it per bar:
Time       FSB       FST
18:40    Transfer    Sell
18:45    Transfer    Sell
18:50    Transfer    Sell
18:55    Transfer    Sell
19:00    Reverse    Sell
19:05    Transfer    Buy
19:10    Reverse    Buy
19:15    Transfer+ADD    Buy

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

Thanks geektrader,
but results give me some hope, look that the chart, it is very promising, it is ID:1 (M30)
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1298/20100426-tqpl-98kb.jpg

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

this is ID:3 trading:
FSB only 5 trades
FST 28 trades!!!
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1298/20100426-ptox-131kb.jpg
Let me set up life monitoring so you can see the results real time.

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

there is monitoring url, updated each 5 minutes.
I made a few mistake when inisialy set up, added MT4-FST to M1 instread of TF which Stratagy trades on,
Will create a new account as soon as it is more clear why there is a huge diffirence between FSB and FST traiding.

http://www.mt4i.com/users/fsb01/stats

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

some performance for today.
Any one trading life by FST?
http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1298/201004 … -192kb.jpg
Please provide your feedback.
you can always see life results here : http://www.mt4i.com/users/fsb01/stats
in EA section.

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

Ok, i'm done for today.
Here is the side by side trading ID: 1

http://my.jetscreenshot.com/1298/20100426-0kqs-79kb.jpg

it looks like two different strategies.
Mr. Popov what is your experience with trading life with FSB strategy on FST? Can you please share that ?

14 (edited by fxwinner 2010-04-26 23:25:40)

Re: Strategy Builder - Open Price, Strategy Trader - Tick Price, Positions

fxwinner did you read this post http://forexsb.com/forum/topic/1186/abn … es-on-fst/
I think it was the same issue. and this one too http://forexsb.com/forum/topic/1139/ent … b-and-fst/