Topic: Accelerator + AO strategie

Hi all, i'm new on this forum, i discovered it recently so i decided to try this fabulous software and i opening a demo account for that.

I tried since 5 days to build a strategie but it doesn't work.

See pic below :
https://picasaweb.google.com/ast.nicola … directlink

First entrer in market after checking in this order  points 1 and 2 and 3

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Opening
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Opening Point of the Position
Bar Opening
Enter the market at the beginning of the bar
Base price - Open

Opening Logic Condition
Accelerator Oscillator
The AC falls
Smoothing method - Simple
Base price - Median
Slow MA period - 34
Fast MA period - 5
Forming MA period - 14
Level - 0,0000
Use previous bar value - Yes

Opening Logic Condition
Awesome Oscillator
The AO falls
Smoothing method - Smoothed
Base price - Weighted
Slow MA period - 34
Fast MA period - 5
Level - 0,0000
Use previous bar value - Yes

Stochastics
The Slow %D falls
Smoothing method - Smoothed
%K period - 7
Fast %D period - 5
Slow %D period - 5
Level - 20
Use previous bar value - Yes

Stochastics
The %K crosses the Slow %D downward
Smoothing method - Weighted
%K period - 5
Fast %D period - 3
Slow %D period - 3
Level - 20
Use previous bar value - Yes

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Closing
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How you want for closing.
I tried  differents things but results are the same



but if somebody have an idea


Thanks a lot

Great software

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

When you say it doesn't work what exactly do you mean, do you not get any trades or does the strategy not work? Can you upload the strategy file?

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

Hi Spiderman,

Thanks a lot for your quick answer

I just want to say that is impossible to make this strategie working because when Ao or Aw cross downward
the zero ( nul / 0 ) level line indicator said the number GROW from 0 to -infinit

-0.000xxx > 0

Any idea ?

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

Can you upload the strategy file or error report so I can check it?

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

ok i will do it fast

have a nice night

6 (edited by hades 2012-05-12 20:10:35)

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

Hi again,

Here you will find the file in xml
I spend the night and this day on it and trying setting the strategie

So here the strat :
I forget software work when you enter long into the market so

Enter Long when
1- at first the AC rise   
( so  actual value is over next value  AND value grow from infinite minus to + infinite )

That mean for exemple for a RISE from -0.50 to +1
=====>   -0.50 is <  -0.25   ( This is ok for the software, it said TRUE/ Long ok)
               0.5 is < 1  ( THIS IS NOT OK, it said FALSE/ Long NOK)


2- the AO starting to RISE
=====> Same problems as upper

3- Slow Stoch simple or smoothed 5.3.3 go Upward
=====> the same i think on cross level

4- closing position when AC Rise
=====> not tested yet

Here what i noticed on my file after checking Indicator Chart

Please help if you have any idea
For the moment i don't put in this strat closing because i don't need it for the moment


Bye all

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Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-fFSLD4YkZ38/T66x6HStVwI/AAAAAAAAAWc/zTIej-abPa8/s800/AO-Ac.png

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

If you want to compare red bar to green, you should use "Changes direction" logic.

Do I understand correctly that you want it to cross the zero line? And at the same time you want it to rise? If so, only "Crosses the level line" logic needs to be used, as it can cross the line only when it rises.

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

Load the file and check for example on EURUSD frame 15 min

When your are in the configuration like here and you want to enter in market at the cross it s not possible
because sometime AO arriving one bar to late.

And if you add STOC it s worth

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

footon wrote:

If you want to compare red bar to green, you should use "Changes direction" logic.

Do I understand correctly that you want it to cross the zero line? And at the same time you want it to rise? If so, only "Crosses the level line" logic needs to be used, as it can cross the line only when it rises.

Ok, but don't work

You use change direction on AO   ( Good ) signal =long
Then the AC change (Good ) signal =long

The signal who permit long on AO disapear so .... you still can't enter in the market

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

That's right, crosses have to happen in one bar in FSB!

But I'm still not following what you exactly want to achieve, sorry for that, can you write down clear rules of your system?

AO - what does it have to do (rise/fall/cross/change direction?)? Does it need to be at a certain level or just in red /green zone?

Same for your other indis please.

Thanks!

12 (edited by hades 2012-05-12 21:52:49)

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

Hi Footon,

I want to pass long on EurUsd when :
Frame time 15 min on CAC40 or EurUsd
Ao rise
Ac rise
Stoc d% rise

and take profit at Stoc reverse


now you know :-)

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

This is fairly simple so far:
[Opening Point of the Position]
Bar Opening
     Enter the market at the beginning of the bar
     Base price  -  Open

[Opening Logic Condition]
Accelerator Oscillator
     [ A ]   The AC rises
     Smoothing method  -  Simple
     Base price  -  Median
     Slow MA period  -  34
     Fast MA period  -  5
     Forming MA period  -  5
     Level  -  0.0000
     Use previous bar value  -  Yes

[Opening Logic Condition]
Awesome Oscillator
     [ A ]   The AO rises
     Smoothing method  -  Simple
     Base price  -  Median
     Slow MA period  -  34
     Fast MA period  -  5
     Level  -  0.0000
     Use previous bar value  -  Yes

[Opening Logic Condition]
Stochastics
     [ A ]   The Slow %D rises
     Smoothing method  -  Simple
     %K period  -  5
     Fast %D period  -  3
     Slow %D period  -  3
     Level  -  20
     Use previous bar value  -  Yes

[Closing Point of the Position]
Bar Closing
     Exit the market at the end of the bar
     Base price  -  Close

[Closing Logic Condition]
Stochastics
     [ a ]   The Slow %D falls
     Smoothing method  -  Simple
     %K period  -  5
     Fast %D period  -  3
     Slow %D period  -  3
     Level  -  20
     Use previous bar value  -  No

Is it still not working?

14 (edited by hades 2012-05-12 22:15:59)

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

Mhhh i have that before, but i discard it.

Not working for me you enter after 50% of curve lost
Idem for short

Look the position off vertical line on the seconde pic

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

It would be great to buy at the extreme low and sell at the high but all indicators lag the price so this is nigh on impossible. From my experience only breakout strategies offer hope in doing this.

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

Ok, thanks all for your help

I will tweak that .....  this morning ( now 2 o'clock am )

Just a question Spiderman how did you do to identify a trend with WTF filter 1 day ?
( Did you remenber the name of the filter ? )
I saw you already use it

So have a nice night all and thanks a lot


Cia

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

hades wrote:

Just a question Spiderman how did you do to identify a trend with WTF filter 1 day ?
( Did you remenber the name of the filter ? )
I saw you already use it

I just use the WTF Moving average as a filter so that I only take trades in the direction of the trend. If you add it to your strategy it works quite well on a daily basis.


Strategy name: AO-AC test1day
Forex Strategy Builder v2.70.0.0
Exported on: 13/05/2012 1:53:48 PM


Market: EURUSD 1 Day
Spread in pips: 20.00
Swap Long in pips: 2.00
Swap Short in pips: -2.00
Commission per lot at opening and closing in pips: 0.00
Slippage in pips: 10

Maximum open lots: 20.00
Entry lots: 1.00

Intrabar scanning: Not accomplished
Interpolation method: Pessimistic scenario
Ambiguous bars: 0
Tested bars: 3486
Balance: 93275 pips (98275.00 USD)
Minimum account: 0 pips (5000.00 USD)
Maximum drawdown: 15850 pips (15850.00 USD)
Time in position: 72 %

[Strategy Properties]
     A same direction signal - Does nothing
     An opposite direction signal - Does nothing
     Permanent Stop Loss - None
     Permanent Take Profit - None
     Break Even - None

[Opening Point of the Position]
     Bar Opening
     Enter the market at the beginning of the bar
     Base price  -  Open

[Opening Logic Condition]
     Accelerator Oscillator
     [ A ]   The AC rises
     Smoothing method  -  Simple
     Base price  -  Median
     Slow MA period  -  21
     Fast MA period  -  6
     Forming MA period  -  5
     Level  -  0.0000
     Use previous bar value  -  Yes

[Opening Logic Condition]
     Awesome Oscillator
     [ A ]   The AO rises
     Smoothing method  -  Simple
     Base price  -  Median
     Slow MA period  -  21
     Fast MA period  -  7
     Level  -  0.0000
     Use previous bar value  -  Yes

[Opening Logic Condition]
     Moving Average (WTF v4)
     [ A ]   The Moving Average rises
     Smoothing method  -  Simple
     Base price  -  Close
     Line Color  -  Blue
     Wider Time Frame Reference  -  1 Week
     Period  -  14
     Shift  -  0

[Closing Point of the Position]
     Donchian Channel
     Exit long at the Lower Band
     Base price  -  High & Low
     Period  -  10
     Shift  -  0
     Use previous bar value  -  Yes


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18 (edited by hades 2012-05-13 16:35:15)

Re: Accelerator + AO strategie

Hi,

Great thanks it was exactly wtf filter for what i was looking for.

So i will add it to my startegie and it should be better

Thanks

Perharps i will do one like this one for fundamnetal month trend
based on eco analys

ex: january feb march :  load upward trend : only long autorized
      April - may                     downward trend : only short autorized


thanks again