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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question about 'Closing Logic' and exit strategies]]></title>
			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/47321/#p47321</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>One super thing about this software is that you can make small changes and run the generator for a few minutes and see what results...</p><p>I like to use the &#039;Long or Short&#039; Indicator with this type of thing, just to see what might appear, sometimes there are significant differences.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Blaiserboy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2017 01:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question about 'Closing Logic' and exit strategies]]></title>
			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/47320/#p47320</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>What?&nbsp; Only three lifetimes?&nbsp; You must be an optimist by nature...</p><p>Thanks for the pointer to Ross Hook -- I took your cue and also started experimenting with it and got some very interesting (and good) results. </p><p>And then, while poking around some more, I learned something very interesting.&nbsp; As a long-time user of FSB you may already be familiar with this phenomenon, but it was a surprise to me.</p><p>So, I have this nice strategy and I replaced the &#039;Bar Closing&#039; logic and indicators simply with &#039;Ross Hook&#039;, re-optimized, and the strategy looked great.&nbsp; And then I started going through the list of &#039;Closing Points&#039; and discovered that many others also worked as well as Ross Hook, some even better.&nbsp; And then I got to the &#039;NoNo&#039; indicator and substituted that for &#039;Ross Hook&#039; and that also worked great.&nbsp; Hmmmmmmm.&nbsp; So, now I&#039;m confused.&nbsp; How can the NoNo indicator work as my Closing point?&nbsp; I mean, how can this strategy ever close a trade?&nbsp; I then read through the &#039;Overview&#039; description and learned why -- because I&#039;m using &#039;Reduce&#039; or &#039;Close&#039; in the next opposite direction signal, then my opening logic indicators are also being used for my closing logic indicators.&nbsp; This is very, very, cool!!&nbsp; I sort of knew this, but because this behavior is hidden from view then I wasn&#039;t thinking about it.&nbsp; Instead I was thinking I needed to fill-in the slots for closing logic in order to complete a strategy.</p><p>I think there are a few implications (perhaps more).&nbsp; For example:<br />1. Since my objective for the exit strategy is to detect when the market goes against my original guess, then from now on I will always use &#039;Reduce&#039; or &#039;Close&#039; because then my opening indicators serve a dual purpose -- they get me into a trade and also out of one.<br />2. By using &#039;Reduce&#039; or &#039;Close&#039; and then NoNo for the closing point, I can test the &quot;robustness&quot; of my opening logic.&nbsp; That is, if my strategy yields good stats when using NoNo for the closing point, then that means my opening logic is good at detecting both buy and sell signals.&nbsp; <br />3. Once I&#039;ve confirmed my opening logic is good at detecting both buy and sell signals, then I can replace the NoNo closing point with something a little better -- e.g. Ross Hook.&nbsp; I&#039;ve noticed that now my closing point has little or no effect -- however, I do need to make sure I don&#039;t use a closing point that screws things up.<br />4. It seems I no longer need to use TP.&nbsp; By using &#039;Reduce&#039; or &#039;Close&#039;, if my opening logic is good then adding TP does not appear to improve the stats at all.</p><p>I haven&#039;t done any live trading with this yet -- but I will this week.&nbsp; I&#039;m using a new tool that allows me to create a single, portfolio EA by merging many FSB strategies, back test in MetaTrader, and then analyze the results in MT4 Tracker.&nbsp; And it continues to look good.&nbsp; As a side note, I plan to announce and release the new tool later this week, which will make it easier for you to also confirm or discount the above observations.</p><p>Neat stuff -- again, Blaiserboy, thank you for your encouraging advice and guiding hand...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (sleytus)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2017 20:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question about 'Closing Logic' and exit strategies]]></title>
			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/47317/#p47317</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think you are close to the solution, I have experimented with similar.</p><p>I am working with Ross Hook today, trying what you are doing.</p><p>One day. within the next three lifetimes.......we will have solutions for all things...... lolol</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Blaiserboy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Question about 'Closing Logic' and exit strategies]]></title>
			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/47266/#p47266</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Actually -- I think I can answer my own question.</p><p>What I am trying to do is fill several closing slots with indicators that can detect a change in direction from &#039;long&#039; to &#039;short&#039; -- and then reuse that closing strategy for all my strategies by locking those indicators when running the Generator.</p><p>Every strategy has an &#039;Overview&#039; tab that describes in detail what happens when a position is long or short, and from that I can see whether or not it&#039;s doing what I expected.&nbsp; And I can now see that FSBPro attempts to choose the corresponding opposite parameter for short positions -- which I sort of knew, but guess I forgot about.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (sleytus)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2017 04:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Question about 'Closing Logic' and exit strategies]]></title>
			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/47262/#p47262</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Recently read an interesting post from one of the moderators about the importance of deciding on a good exit strategy so you have a clean getaway in case the market goes in the opposite direction.&nbsp; So, I&#039;ve been doing some experimenting and found a closing that uses several slots that seems to work well regardless of what I use for &#039;Opening Logic&#039;.&nbsp; I would like to have a general-purpose closing strategy that I can use with all my strategies that mostly protects me if the market goes in a different direction than the trade opened.&nbsp; I always use SL, but that is usually painful and expensive and I&#039;m hoping the closing strategy can detect a bad trade sooner and just get out (with minimal loss).</p><p>I&#039;ve noticed that a number of indicators have a &#039;rising&#039; and &#039;falling&#039; parameter.&nbsp; And sometimes I can add one of each in the closing logic and it has a positive effect on the back testing statistics.&nbsp; So, my question concerns whether or not this makes any sense.&nbsp; Suppose I open a long trade and want to get out if my strategy guessed wrong and the market drops.&nbsp; I&#039;m thinking the &#039;falling&#039; indicator will detect that and exit the trade before having to wait for the SL.&nbsp; On the other hand, if the market continues going up then the &#039;falling&#039; indicator remains silent and does no harm.</p><p>The reason I need one of each is because I&#039;m not sure FSBPro substitutes &#039;falling&#039; with &#039;rising&#039; (or vice-versa) when it automatically generates the corresponding short logic.</p><p>Does this make sense to anyone?&nbsp; Can you think of any negative consequences?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (sleytus)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2017 16:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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