Hey @rantampla -- I think it is rude to post in German -- it's a forum in English.  Yes -- I can use Google translate, but why would you force me and others to spend time doing that?

It's fine to communicate with @Geektrader in German, but don't you think that's best done as a private message?

Sorry Sleytus, i have not thinked over it. I was happy a German user found here.

I have much more experience with the SQ.

You can´t compare SQ and FSBpro directly. If you have more knowledge about forex Robots the FSBpro is the better choose.

The new Version of SQ, SQ 4.119 have more funktionality than FSBpro. Version 4.X of the SQ is very good and stable at the moment.

I have not found a good strategy with 3.8.2 and 4.X and FSBpro. The problem is the curvefitting and the market situation. The found Eas are very simple.

I have my best success with the following combination.

a) Find a good portfolio of EAs (I have done this with SQ 3.8.2)
b) Let the EAs trade (The Eas opens the position)
c) I get an SMS is a EA open trades
d) I check the trade and close the trades manualy. (I check market situation and different timeframes and make my own decision to close the trades)

https://www.myfxbook.com/members/tnickel/jfd-life/1274324

my suggestion is to buy both programms. FSBpro and Strategyquant.
Find some EAs + Learn Trading by hand.

I think the combination of automatic trading and trading by hand is the future.
I don´t have so much trading knowledge, but it helps if I use the automated eas for the trade entrys.

It's fine to communicate with @Geektrader in German, but don't you think that's best done as a private message?

and emails sent to support are rarely answered.

I stand corrected....

Marc is not into development of any of his products in recent months, seems he has other things to do.

GSB has  custom indicator now and that is what I am going to try in the near future.
I have not been able to generate good systems on Forex with GSB and I think it is not intended
for that. Peter also says he is not good in Forex.
GSB only has very simple exits (no trailing or ATR etc) , a lot of work still has to be done here.

However, with EA Studio, things are a bit different now... it generates systems SO fast (if you are using an optimized Chrome build), that I was able to create ~15 million strategies on 60000 bars of data within just 18 hours last weekend (AMD Threadripper 1950X CPU). Out of that, I had about 1500 usable ones and then have cut those down to 100 "best ones". Then just exported them to a Portfolio EA and let them trade for one week on EURUSD. Up 280 Euro with 0.01 lots, amazing! That is a whole new approach to EA Studio and trading such a huge collection of strategies at once. Instead of baby-sitting and ultra-fine-tuning a few "elite" strategies then almost always lose their edge when going live, you throw hundreds of them at the market, knowing many of them will fail, but most likely 60% will not and hence exploiting the overall positive bias of all strategies combined to make profits. I will continue testing this approach the following week too. If this approach keeps on doing good, Popov will get a good share of the profits, that is for sure because this idea he had is so unique and was new to me as well after so many years of making a living in Forex.

So my summary: I´d go with SQ / Adaptrade Builder or the new GSB if you need custom fitness functions (and most "pro" traders simply do need that) and I´d go with EA Studio if you are going for Popov´s new approach and wanted strategies fast without wanting to fine-tune them in-depth like you could do with FSB Pro (which though lacks the custom fitness functions as well). Once EA Studio has a proper "stability" measure for the equity curves, things will also look much better in there once again, I think I would not even need custom fitness functions in there anymore then because of the sheer amount of strategies it can output so quickly (where SQ4 / Adaptrade / GSB are like 50x slower).

Keep up the good work Mr. Popov! Thanks so much :-)

SQ: We do not offer refunds, therefore take advantage of the free trial

FSB Pro: 30 days 100% money back guarantee. No questions asked

It does some of the testing as part of its routine..... ie optimizing and monte carlo

You can , when looking at individual results, add and remove indicators and optimize those and do the monte carlo seperately.

Best to spend a few hours working with it and checking the featires yourself.

There are quite a few differences between it and FSBPro......  try it for a few hours!

In other words: when I buy FSBPro what are the benefits of buying EA Studio too?

I do not think anyone is going to attempt to prove anything and I don't think anyone is going to open a MyFxBook account to get an audience.
My FxBook is for people who want to sell things such as experts or signal services.
I am not interested 9in selling anything.
FSBPro sells itself.
What I suggest that you do is....... construct a stratgey, do the testing and then do a thorough walk forward using the 'Data Horizon' under 'Market' at the top of the screen, You can manipulate the dates any way you want and see about the strategy that you have devised.
There is nothing that my experts can do for you and no matter what you see, you are going to have to make your own decisions.
I would not want that you base a decision on seeing my strategies...... you have to make the decision on your own, doing your own due diligence.

I use FSBPro because I like it and I like the people in this forum and I like how Popov deals with the problems...... you may not like any of those....

Your decision will cost you some good amount of money, I do not want you to make a wrong decision....... that decision you will have to do yourself to meet your own personal requirements.

A few years ago I was after Popov to make a fancy sales page..... I could not understand why he refused. Well, finally I realized that the product will sell itself toi the people who want what it provides.

I can suggest that you make a list of the features of the software and then  for each of the features make a list of the benefits that you can see and also a list of the problems... that will lay out clealry where you should go.

This is a decision that you have to live with for a long time....... and, unfortunately, it is up to you, not up to anyone showing you results.

If you have time, you can look back through old posts on the forum and learn what others have experienced.

You might see that some very capable traders are using the software for themselves and for their clients.

From snooping around on the net I have seen that a couple users are now providing signal services for a fee.

Some people will not succeed using FSBPro because they will not take the time to master its capabilities. Some people will fail because they do not perform all of the tests on their strategies before live trading.

Myself, I am experimenting all day and most evenings....... I try all sorts of things... just to see what happens. Slowly I learn.

And if you are going to be developing automated systems. you will have to do the same. You have to ask yourself if this work is what you want. As far as making a choice of software. they both offer solutions and they can both offer frustrations.

The choice is your to make.

daveM

Thanks Dave!
I know that with my questions I could expect an answer like yours.
And you're probably right with your answers.

Yes, it's my decision.No problem with that.
Yes, I'm seriously working with Forex.
Yes, I earn money with it each month.
Yes, I have my own MyFxbook although I don't sell anything.
It's just easy to have an overview of most of my accounts and strategies.
Yes, I will buy FSB and start my own learning curve.
Talk soon on one of the other topics in the forum.
When interested you can see my portfolie here: http://www.myfxbook.com/members/forexdutchie