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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I tried to use PostImage......... and got the same error....</p><p>However, this is the new version of Postimage.....</p><p>Low on the&nbsp; home page is the URL for the old version......</p><p>Perhaps the URL in the forum can be changed to get the old version.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2016 01:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/36937/#p36937</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>I keep getting &quot;mode not supported&quot; error now when I try to post image (charts)</p></blockquote></div><p>Hmm. No idea why does it happens. Did you try PostImage.Org or Gyazo?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2016 18:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I keep getting &quot;mode not supported&quot; error now when I try to post image (charts).&nbsp; I tried resizing within the post feature as well and still the same error message.</p><p>I wasn&#039;t getting this error message until a couple of days ago (earlier using same image type and no resizing) and was able to post my charts without any problems.&nbsp; The image type is .PNG. </p><p>Any ideas on what the issue may be?&nbsp; Is there a maximum image per thread that has been reached?&nbsp; I doubt it but thought I would ask just in case.</p><p>Thanks<br />Serge</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2016 18:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Blaiserboy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have no answer re differences in a 2 year backtest, puzzled....... unless somehow data was a bit different.......</p><p>Maybe the Porter ad was so you would take the ferry to the island and hop a flight to Hawaii.</p><p>OR&nbsp; maybe Premier Wynne wants you for her Cabinet to help her blow our money and wants you to fly all over the province.....&nbsp; LOL</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Lol those are both possibilities.&nbsp; I do love Porter though, the only airline left to give you a complimentary beer <img src="https://forexsb.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>I will try and post my charts again to see if I have any luck.</p><p>Serge</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2016 15:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/36902/#p36902</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I have no answer re differences in a 2 year backtest, puzzled....... unless somehow data was a bit different.......</p><p>Maybe the Porter ad was so you would take the ferry to the island and hop a flight to Hawaii.</p><p>OR&nbsp; maybe Premier Wynne wants you for her Cabinet to help her blow our money and wants you to fly all over the province.....&nbsp; LOL</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2016 03:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/36901/#p36901</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the delay.&nbsp; Ok I randomly picked a spot where the positions were flat to begin the comparative analysis between the FSB Indicator chart and the MT4 back test chart.&nbsp; This system is using the GBPUSD 15M chart.</p><p>On March 24, 2016 six short entries were taken.&nbsp; Three reductions occured on March 25th, and the other three reductions occurred on March 30, 2016.</p><p>After comparing the MT4 chart and FSB charts along with the journal for each, the entries and exits appear to be almost identical in terms of price and time.</p><p>I tried posting my charts but there appears to be a problem with the java script now.&nbsp; Big ads for Porter Airlines show up and it wont let me post my charts as before.</p><p>Anyhow this particular spot in the trading cycle appears to give me identical results between FSB&nbsp; and MT4, so still not sure why the results over a two year back test differ so drastically.</p><p>Thanks<br />Serge</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2016 02:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Popov wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sergiel,</p><p>Did you find the problem? If not, we can try fixing the problem on your machine. If you agree I will be happy to record a video how I usually debug such issues. We can do it via team viewer and skype. It will probably take 30-40 minutes.</p><p>I want to save the session because it will demonstrate working on a real world problem and will help to many users. (If they are interested in watching live records with tries and errors).</p></blockquote></div><p>Perhaps this video, if you do make it.... will have an introductory part that details all of the steps to get everything turned on so that data is scanned properly, instruments are set up properly.. all of this to cut down on the number of errors that seem to be cropping up on a regular basis.</p><p>Many of the errors seem to stem from improper initial setup of the instruments and the data... and forgetting to use the tools that are already set up in the software.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I feel that trying to switch the ea from one broker to another may cause you grief........ because they do not have a uniform feed, they all operate differently.</p><p>You can forward test by changing the dates in the &#039;Market&#039; tab... ie you can have large periods or smaller periods to make a rigorous test in addition to Monte Carlo.</p><p>At one time, Popov was considering adding forward testing to FSBPro, probably that is well down on the &#039;to do&#039; list.</p><p>I wonder, when you are forward testing in demo mode...., do you keep track of the variances..... I know that would be a lot of work to maintain a record keeping system, however, it would give you, over time, an expectation for results.</p><p>That being said, I suspect broker demo accounts as there are so many ways that they can cheat you when you switch your strategy to real account.</p><p>The broker I use has small lot sizes ie 10,000 instead of 100,000, so I can test using a small lot size on a real account, and as long as I am at least a bit prudent, I am losing only 50 cents or a dollar per trade.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Blaiserboy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I might suggest that you work on that strategy to get rid of ambiguous bars......&nbsp; That may well be the cause of your situation.</p><p>I really encourage you to have zero ambiguous bars if you are going to be trading real time. MT4 has a problem with data anyways, might as well have as good a strategy as you can get.</p><p>Also. did you get this strategy to run properly without the compound orders..... and then do the additions and reductions.</p><p>Those compound orders may be affecting the execution, you might try to get the thing running with out those and then when that is ok, add the position adjustments.</p><p>Use the simplest and test it first, the start to add the bells and whistles.... that way is easier to locate errors.</p><p>Also........ turn on intrabar scanning to help reduce errors.</p><p>None of these is specifically the cause of error....... but all together may be a cause of concern.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks Dave I will try this out as well.</p><p>Serge</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2016 23:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Popov wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sergiel,</p><p>Did you find the problem? If not, we can try fixing the problem on your machine. If you agree I will be happy to record a video how I usually debug such issues. We can do it via team viewer and skype. It will probably take 30-40 minutes.</p><p>I want to save the session because it will demonstrate working on a real world problem and will help to many users. (If they are interested in watching live records with tries and errors).</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi Popov thank you so much for the offer of assistance, that would be fantastic!&nbsp; In all honesty I still need to have a closer look at what is going on and post my results.&nbsp; I should be able to do this on the next day or so.</p><p>Our 1 year old daughter keeping me pretty busy these days lol <img src="https://forexsb.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (sergiel)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2016 23:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>footon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Serge, I need to ask you - do you plan to trade or only backtest? It doesn&#039;t take much to confirm via demo if your strat trades the same as in FSB, additional backtest with MT is a waste in every respect and doesn&#039;t add anything to the table. I&#039;m happy to be proven wrong, though.</p></blockquote></div><p>Hi footon, to answer your question I do trade live and I currently have 4 different EAs running on my live account.&nbsp; However, I do take a fairly cautious approach before running an EA on a live account.</p><p>At minimum I like to see the following criteria met before I will even consider running an EA on a live account with real money at stake:</p><p>1) A profitable strategy on FSB.</p><p>2) Passes the Montecarlo test for robustness.</p><p>3) Change the data feed in FSB to another broker data (FXDD) and still have profitable results.&nbsp; (If vastly different results here a good indicator the strategy is rubbish and is just curve fit.&nbsp; However comparison will not work if strategy is broker time dependent.)</p><p>4) Run the same back test in MT4 to double check the results.</p><p>If all of these tests pass then I will consider running the EA on a live account.&nbsp; To simply run every EA that looks profitable in FSB without some more confirmation is account suicide in my opinion.</p><p>Sometimes I will also forward test on a demo account for several weeks as well.</p><p>Thanks<br />Serge<br />)</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2016 23:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Sergiel,</p><p>Did you find the problem? If not, we can try fixing the problem on your machine. If you agree I will be happy to record a video how I usually debug such issues. We can do it via team viewer and skype. It will probably take 30-40 minutes.</p><p>I want to save the session because it will demonstrate working on a real world problem and will help to many users. (If they are interested in watching live records with tries and errors).</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. will try to comply.&nbsp; Most of my EAs already have 0 Ambiguous bars and Auto Scan is always &quot;switched on&quot; as is trade until margin call.&nbsp; What are compound orders?<br />My understanding is FXCM MT4 [which I&#039;m having trouble with] is a basically unmodified MetaQuotes product, but that Oanda [which works much much better] has a quasi-Metaquotes set up.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/36783/#p36783</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I might suggest that you work on that strategy to get rid of ambiguous bars......&nbsp; That may well be the cause of your situation.</p><p>I really encourage you to have zero ambiguous bars if you are going to be trading real time. MT4 has a problem with data anyways, might as well have as good a strategy as you can get.</p><p>Also. did you get this strategy to run properly without the compound orders..... and then do the additions and reductions.</p><p>Those compound orders may be affecting the execution, you might try to get the thing running with out those and then when that is ok, add the position adjustments.</p><p>Use the simplest and test it first, the start to add the bells and whistles.... that way is easier to locate errors.</p><p>Also........ turn on intrabar scanning to help reduce errors.</p><p>None of these is specifically the cause of error....... but all together may be a cause of concern.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2016 02:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Different results btw FSB backtest and MT4 backtest?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I do not use MT4 except as a bridge to the market. I guess that is why I do not run in to these problems.</p><p>I try to get my strategies to look ok in FSBPro and then export them and start to use them live.</p><p>I spend most of my time trying to improve results and forward testing in FSBPro.</p><p>When Popov was developing this software, I trust that he did all the MT4 work to make sure that FSBPro did the job. And looking through the old posts you can see some of the testing that he did, I am sure he has done a lot more.</p><p>If, in fact, there are discrepancies.... I am not too bothered.... I do not want to spend the time looking for MT4 stuff. I have simple strategies on higher time frames...... and I have a lot of them.</p><p>Now i have so many strategies trading that I would not like to have to check.</p><p>One thing I do keep track of is the trading history, to ensure that the ratio of wins to losses is satisfactory.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jun 2016 02:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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