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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Some ideas for improving the strategy generator]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is quite better! Thank you very much!</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>footon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Allen made a custom MACD indicator with sanity check: <a href="http://forexsb.com/forum/topic/2030/test-indicator-macd-with-sanity-checks/">http://forexsb.com/forum/topic/2030/tes … ty-checks/</a></p><p>It&#039;s the pure result FSB is after, and often strategies give a better result if fast &quot;becomes&quot; slow and vice versa, principally it can be set right by reversing the logic as well, but this idea needs to be tested and confirmed.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 15:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Some ideas for improving the strategy generator]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>binaryoptions wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I noticed this, too. And when I looked at the FSB GUI interface, I noticed that the Fast MA was set to a longer timeframe and the Slow MA was set to a shorter timeframe. FSB inverted the numbers after I ran a generated strategy. But when I looked at the the default, the MACD had the Fast and Slow parameters correct (the fast was the small value than the slow)&nbsp; Is there any information as to why this is the case? </p><p>I assume its possible to implement the inverted strategy, but I use Oanda, and I their graphical chart cannot implement a longer &quot;fast&quot; MA over a shorter &quot;slow&quot; MA. So any generated strategy using MACD with the numbers inverted is useless.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>DragonEagle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It would also be nice to have sanity checks for some indicators too.&nbsp; for example I have seen cases where the macd fast ma is a longer period than the slow ma.</p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><p>Allen made a custom MACD indicator with sanity check: <a href="http://forexsb.com/forum/topic/2030/test-indicator-macd-with-sanity-checks/">http://forexsb.com/forum/topic/2030/tes … ty-checks/</a></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Is there any information as to why this is the case?</p></blockquote></div><p>It&#039;s the pure result FSB is after, and often strategies give a better result if fast &quot;becomes&quot; slow and vice versa, principally it can be set right by reversing the logic as well, but this idea needs to be tested and confirmed.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 13:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Some ideas for improving the strategy generator]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I noticed this, too. And when I looked at the FSB GUI interface, I noticed that the Fast MA was set to a longer timeframe and the Slow MA was set to a shorter timeframe. FSB inverted the numbers after I ran a generated strategy. But when I looked at the the default, the MACD had the Fast and Slow parameters correct (the fast was the small value than the slow)&nbsp; Is there any information as to why this is the case? </p><p>I assume its possible to implement the inverted strategy, but I use Oanda, and I their graphical chart cannot implement a longer &quot;fast&quot; MA over a shorter &quot;slow&quot; MA. So any generated strategy using MACD with the numbers inverted is useless.</p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>DragonEagle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It would also be nice to have sanity checks for some indicators too.&nbsp; for example I have seen cases where the macd fast ma is a longer period than the slow ma.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 12:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Some ideas for improving the strategy generator]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Actually you should have more than that.&nbsp; after you run the generator, use ctrl+h and ctrl+j to cycle through the generated strategies.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (DragonEagle)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Some ideas for improving the strategy generator]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi i have idea, if is it posible ofcours.<br />Automaticly save the generatet strategy at every &quot;X&quot; minutes<br />For example start the generator at 8 am, make it at every 10 minets auto save the generatet stragey, and start automaticly next strategy whit the first parameretes, then at 8 pm we will have 72 generatet strategy and we will save alot of taim.<br />Best regards! <img src="https://forexsb.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 18:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Some ideas for improving the strategy generator]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I had an idea which I thought may improve the strategy builder,&nbsp; &nbsp;if there was an option,&nbsp; where the option is for you to pick on next signal to do &quot;nothing&quot;, &quot;add&quot; or &quot;winner&quot;, if there was another option for modify,&nbsp; as in the add feature where it modify&#039;s all orders in a grid type strategy, but instead of opening another trade it just changes the current open order</p><p>Thanks for the great product and all of the work!</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 17:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Some ideas for improving the strategy generator]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>If this may not be effective for some traders because it could slow computers, then there should be a way to improve this strategy generator to make it more effective for all.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2011 10:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>footon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> as I understand you want to use as many slots as there are indicators, but this is not practically achieveable.</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually no.&nbsp; I just want the option to cycle through the indicators up to a maximum of the selected number of slots rather than choosing them randomly.&nbsp; As for sanity checks, it would require adding an additional method to the indicator to verify that the values were good e.g.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>bool hasSaneValues(){
    return slowMA &gt; fastMA;
}</code></pre></div><p>an inverted indicator like that could also be a sign of curve fitting.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (DragonEagle)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>all in all I understand now, but the limits have to be there - for example it is a must to define the number of slots, as I understand you want to use as many slots as there are indicators, but this is not practically achieveable. </p><p>About sanity check, I don&#039;t know; if the result is what one is after, then it doesn&#039;t really matter if it is in opposition to indicator&#039;s principle. However what I&#039;d like to see is more methodological approach, for instance I want to improve the strategy by one indicator slot at a time, and that generator would go through all indicators/logics/base parameters but NOT optimizing them in the process. When I try to do this in current versions, it pops up &quot;Day of Month&quot; or similar indicator with insane values (clearly a sign of curve fitting), which is... stupid if I&#039;m frank.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>footon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>DragonEagle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> the user could turn on or off and would also require disabling the maximum time option.</p></blockquote></div><p>type a zero and it runs indefinitely</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes that&#039;s in the documentation.&nbsp; I was just saying that the 2 options would not work well together.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>DragonEagle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> the user could turn on or off and would also require disabling the maximum time option.</p></blockquote></div><p>type a zero and it runs indefinitely</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I should add that it would also be nice to be able to tell the generator not to use certain indicators that end up with insane values I.E. Previous high/Low with a vertical shift of -1000 on a 5 min time frame. This would NOT be so simple to implement.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>It would also be nice to have sanity checks for some indicators too.&nbsp; for example I have seen cases where the macd fast ma is a longer period than the slow ma.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (DragonEagle)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>footon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Can you elaborate your idea please?</p></blockquote></div><p>Certainly.&nbsp; It is my understanding that the current way that the generator functions is to randomly generate a strategy withing the given limitations and compare the results with the previously generated strategy.&nbsp; It should be a simple matter to have it run through an iteration loop and generate a strategy for each possible indicator with every possible setting and compare that with the previously generated strategy.&nbsp; It is understood that it would take longer than the current implementation as I understand it so it would have to be something the user could turn on or off and would also require disabling the maximum time option.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 14:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Allen,</p><p>Nice ideas, but 2 of them are actually being implemented and further developed already, in the newest beta you can set it to write optimization reports, in generator you can set the deviation curve for OOS etc. Only thing which is not there is the first idea you mentioned, but the more I think about it, the less I understand it. Can you elaborate your idea please? </p><p>If you have more thoughts about improving FSB concept, keep them coming&nbsp; <img src="https://forexsb.com/forum/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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