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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Ok. Thank you Popov. I was confused about how the Close and Reverse worked.<br />I am a self taught (non degreed) 64 year old retired electronics technician/computer hardware test engineer/ Amateur Radio Station K9JXE Operator and previously taught myself Basic and Z80 Microprocessor Assembly Languages so I could write Diagnostic Tests for Computer system Terminal and Disk Controllers. I am trying to understand the Indicators and &quot;Expert Advisors&quot; written for use by MetaTrader and how to modify/customize other&#039;s free downloaded Excel math formula spreadsheets. I previously learned programming languages by reading the annotated comments given by the author in his source code line comments. I know it shouldn&#039;t be that difficult in light of my previous programming experience. I guess it has something to do with age, lol.</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>There is no problem to do this. </p><p>Here&nbsp; when MACD line crosses above the zero line there is a long signal (when it crosses below the zero there is a short signal) and the opposite logic is applied for closing the position.</p><p><strong>A same direction signal</strong> - <em>Does nothing</em><br /><strong>An opposite direction signal</strong> - <em>Does nothing</em></p><p><strong>[Opening point of the position]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Bar Opening</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Enter the market at the beginning of the bar</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Open</em></p><p><strong>[Opening logic condition]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">MACD</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">The MACD line crosses the zero line upward</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Smoothing method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Exponential</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Close</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Simple</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Slow MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>26</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Fast MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>12</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>9</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Use previous bar value</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Yes</em></p><p><strong>[Closing point of the position]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Bar Closing</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Exit the market at the end of the bar</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Close</em></p><p><strong>[Closing logic condition]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">MACD</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">The MACD line crosses the zero line downward</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Smoothing method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Exponential</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Close</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Simple</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Slow MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>26</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Fast MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>12</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>9</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Use previous bar value</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>No</em></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://forexsb.com/img1/MACD_crossover_1.png" alt="http://forexsb.com/img1/MACD_crossover_1.png" /></span></p><p>Here when MACD crosses the zero line we have actually 2 signals one close signal and an open one. The first signal closes the current open position and after that (at the begining of the next bar) the second signal opens a new position but in the opposite direction.</p><p>----------------------------------------------------</p><p>You can do the same using &quot;Close and Reverse&quot; logic:</p><p><strong>A same direction signal</strong> - <em>Does nothing</em><br /><strong>An opposite direction signal</strong> - <em>Reverses the position</em></p><p><strong>[Opening point of the position]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Bar Opening</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Enter the market at the beginning of the bar</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Open</em></p><p><strong>[Opening logic condition]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">MACD</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">The MACD line crosses the zero line upward</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Smoothing method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Exponential</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Close</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Simple</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Slow MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>26</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Fast MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>12</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>9</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Use previous bar value</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Yes</em></p><p><strong>[Closing point of the position]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Close and Reverse</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Close all positions and open a new one in the opposite direction</span></strong></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://forexsb.com/img1/MACD_crossover_2.png" alt="http://forexsb.com/img1/MACD_crossover_2.png" /></span></p><p>The difference here is that in each MACD signal directly reverses the position.</p><p>---------------------------------</p><p>One more example with a &quot;Stop Loss&quot; level. Here the &quot;Reversal&quot; logic comes from <br />the &quot;Reverse&quot; logic of the opposite signal: <strong>An opposite direction signal</strong> - <em>Reverses the position</em></p><br /><p><strong>Forex Strategy Builder v2.5.3.3</strong><br />Strategy name: <strong>New</strong><br />Exported on: 11/24/2007 11:52:18 PM</p><p>Market: EURUSD 1 Day<br />Spread: 4 pips<br />Swap Number: 1 pip</p><p>Intrabar scanning: Not accomplished<br />Interpolation method: Pessimistic scenario<br />Ambiguous bars: 0<br />Tested bars: 4723<br />Balance: <strong>3044</strong> pips<br />Minimum account: 0 pips<br />Maximum drawdown: 1591 pips<br />Time in position: 91 %</p><p><strong>A same direction signal</strong> - <em>Does nothing</em><br /><strong>An opposite direction signal</strong> - <em>Reverses the position</em></p><p><strong>[Opening point of the position]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Bar Opening</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Enter the market at the beginning of the bar</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Open</em></p><p><strong>[Opening logic condition]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">MACD</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">The MACD line crosses the zero line upward</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Smoothing method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Exponential</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Close</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Simple</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Slow MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>26</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Fast MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>12</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>9</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Use previous bar value</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Yes</em></p><p><strong>[Closing point of the position]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Stop Loss</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Exit at the Stop Loss level</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Stop Loss</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>-200</em></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://forexsb.com/img1/MACD_crossover_3.png" alt="http://forexsb.com/img1/MACD_crossover_3.png" /></span></p><br /><p>When you want to use one and the same condition to open and close a position every time when there is a signal it shows actually two things - a closing signal and an opening signal in the opposite direction. The result is a reversal strategy. </p><p>You can experiment by setting an additional &quot;Open long positions only&quot; filter:</p><p><strong>A same direction signal</strong> - <em>Does nothing</em><br /><strong>An opposite direction signal</strong> - <em>Reverses the position</em></p><p><strong>[Opening point of the position]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Bar Opening</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Enter the market at the beginning of the bar</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Open</em></p><p><strong>[Opening logic condition]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">MACD</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">The MACD line crosses the zero line upward</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Smoothing method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Exponential</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Close</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Simple</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Slow MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>26</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Fast MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>12</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>9</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Use previous bar value</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Yes</em></p><p><strong>[Opening logic condition]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Long or Short</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Open long positions only</span></strong></p><p><strong>[Closing point of the position]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Stop Loss</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Exit at the Stop Loss level</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Stop Loss</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>-200</em></p><p>As a matter of fact almost there is no difference between the Entry and Exit slots. The logics are same. If you want a mirror logic of opening and closing the easiest way is to use &quot;Close and Reverse&quot; logic. </p><p>As you wrote: <br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>That is, why does it not allow the use of MACD conditions to Open and the opposite MACD conditions to Close the trades?</p></blockquote></div><p>This is exactly a reversal system. The second MACD conditions will close the position but in the same time it is an opposite opening signal.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 22:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Why are Opening Point of Position and Closing Point of Position menu choices not the same Indicators?<br />That is, why does it not allow the use of MACD conditions to Open and the opposite MACD conditions to Close the trades?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 19:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>dan9mar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I wonder why your FSB doesn&#039;t include the ability to use the same indicators to both open and close trades, such as MACD, ADX, Momentum, etc. ?</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m sorry I cannot understand the question. Can you explain again?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Popov for your insight and confirmation. </p><p>I wonder why your FSB doesn&#039;t include the ability to use the same indicators to both open and close trades, such as MACD, ADX, Momentum, etc. ?</p><p>I am currently playing with your FSB and the free MetaTrader download program for automatic trading a demo account. There are several free &quot;Expert Advisors&quot; (EAs) and Indicators available for trading the MT4 platform (and many more for sale) compiled to the MQL format. I am still having frustration trying to get it to trade correctly, lol.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>I have played starting with a minimal 5 minute pair opening at day start and closing at day close and noted its balance and then proceeded to add indicators and limiters to maximize the improvement.</p></blockquote></div><p>The technical indicators use the price as basis and increase some of its aspects. I&#039;ve noticed years ago that adding additional indicators to a strategy do not improve it. More precisely said: we cannot use an indicator to take a decision for a trade and to confirm its signal with other similar indicator. If you play with the parameters you can receive exactly same curve shape for different indicators. I remember I&#039;ve did this with RSI, Stochastic&nbsp; and Accelerator Oscillator. The indicator shape was same for the three indicators.&nbsp; So I thing is not necessary to include in a strategy more than 1 - 2 indicators from a given type. The opposite leads to overoptimization.</p><p>I did the test with this indicators:</p><p><strong>[Opening logic condition]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Accelerator Oscillator</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">The AC rises</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Smoothing method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Simple</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Close</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Slow MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>34</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Fast MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>5</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Forming MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>5</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Level</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>0</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Use previous bar value</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Yes</em></p><p><strong>[Opening logic condition]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">MACD Histogram</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">The MACD histogram rises</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Smoothing method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Exponential</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Close</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line method</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Simple</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Slow MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>34</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Fast MA period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>5</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Signal line period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>5</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Level</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>0</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Use previous bar value</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Yes</em></p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://forexsb.com/img1/AC_MACD_Correlation.png" alt="http://forexsb.com/img1/AC_MACD_Correlation.png" /></span></p><p>I exported the indicator values: Menu [Export] -&gt; [Indicators] to an Excel spreadsheet and set the correlation function for the AC column and MACD Histogram column: =CORREL(K1:K4729,O1:O4729)</p><p>The result is correlation of 0.89 and this was my first try. I&#039;m pretty sure if I adjust the parameters I can achieve greater correlation. <br />My conclusion is that we cannot use one of this indicators to confirm the other&#039;s signal. The adding of additional indicators may not improve the strategy.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Your Strategy looks good for EURUSD 1 Hour. I find that most strategies that work good on one pair during one time period usually are very poor at other pairs or time periods. I have played starting with a minimal 5 minute pair opening at day start and closing at day close and noted its balance and then proceeded to add indicators and limiters to maximize the improvement. I have yet to find any strategy combination that is consistantly profitable on all pairs and time periods. This makes me suspect that most indicators are useless and only chance at a particular pair &amp; time period are at work. I find only some benefit from money management using stops, limits, and lots. In fact, the most important profit factor appers to be Money Management, like Kelly or Optimal-F, techniques to keep you solvent when the inevitable large &gt; 5 Standard Deviation Drawdown eventually happens. </p><p>I value your experience &amp; knowledge and welcome your and other forum contributors opinions on this.</p><p>Thank You,<br />Dan</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry all, the strategy in proper format is as follows<br /><strong>Forex Strategy Builder v2.5.3.1</strong><br />Strategy name: <strong>4 x 1 strategy</strong><br />Exported on: 10/26/2007 10:30:36 AM</p><p>Market: EURUSD 1 Hour<br />Spread: 4 pips<br />Swap Number: 1 pip</p><p>Intrabar scanning: Not accomplished<br />Interpolation method: Pessimistic scenario<br />Ambiguous bars: 1<br />Tested bars: 2513<br />Balance: <strong>1223</strong> pips<br />Minimum account: 0 pips<br />Maximum drawdown: 49 pips<br />Time in position: 83 %</p><p><strong>A same direction signal</strong> - <em>Adds to the position</em><br /><strong>An opposite direction signal</strong> - <em>Does nothing</em></p><p><strong>[Opening point of the position]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Donchian Channel</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Enter long at the Down Band</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Base price</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>High &amp; Low</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Period</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>10</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Shift</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>0</em><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Use previous bar value</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>Yes</em></p><p><strong>[Opening logic condition]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Long or Short</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Open long positions only</span></strong></p><p><strong>[Opening logic condition]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Lot Limiter</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Limit the number of position&#039;s lots</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Maximum lots</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>3</em></p><p><strong>[Closing point of the position]</strong><br /><strong><span style="color:blue">Take Profit</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong><span style="color:teal">Exit at the Take Profit level</span></strong><br />&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<strong>Take Profit</strong>&nbsp; -&nbsp; <em>35</em></p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I tested out the 4 x 1 strategy over a few months with 1 hour data.<br />The results are here<br />Statistic Information<br />Market Account <br />Symbol EURUSD <br />Period 1 Hour <br />Number of bars 2525 <br />Date of updating 06/29/07 <br />Time of updating 22:00 <br />Date of beginning 02/01/07 <br />Time of beginning 00:00 <br />Data refining Switched off <br />Minimum price 1.2911 <br />Maximum price 1.3677 <br />Average Gap 1 pips <br />Maximum Gap 38 pips <br />Average High-Low 12 pips <br />Maximum High-Low 92 pips <br />Average Close-Open 5 pips <br />Maximum Close-Open 82 pips <br />Maximum days off 3 <br />Maximum data bars 20000 <br />No data older than 2/1/2007 <br />No data newer than 7/2/2007 <br /> Intrabar scanning Not accomplished <br />Interpolation method Pessimistic scenario <br />Abiguous bars 1 <br />Tested bars 2513 <br />Account balance 1223 pips <br />Minimum account 0 pips <br />Maximum account 1223 pips <br />Maximum drawdown 49 pips <br />Gross profit 1283 pips <br />Gross loss 60 pips <br />Sent orders 7082 <br />Executed orders 102 <br />Dealt lots 143 <br />Time in position 83 % <br />Charged spread 292 pips <br />Charged roll-over 339 pips <br />Charged fees 631 pips <br />Balance without fees 1854 pips </p><p>Strategy<br />Strategy Logic<br />A same direction signal - Adds to the position<br />An opposite direction signal - Does nothing</p><br /><p>Opening point of the position<br />Donchian Channel<br />Enter long at the Down Band<br />Base price - High &amp; Low <br />Period - 10 <br />Shift - 0 <br />Use previous bar value - Yes <br />Opening logic condition<br />Long or Short<br />Open long positions only<br />Opening logic condition<br />Lot Limiter<br />Limit the number of position&#039;s lots<br />Maximum lots - 3 <br />Closing point of the position<br />Take Profit<br />Exit at the Take Profit level<br />Take Profit - 35</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your reply Viswaddata.</p><p>What is wrong with only Taking Profits at, say 85 pips each time, and using maximum leverage of $500 down per trade (=1:200 or .5%) and pyramiding by buying more conracts at $500 down each time you Take Profit and waiting for another promising entry trade. If you are patient and can wait for months to have a trade made and the Pair doesn&#039;t Whipsaw sideways at less than 85 pips it should prove highly profitable in the long run and with no drawdown (except for spreads &amp; carryover pips)? If you only day trade and only take inter day profits of 85 pips, then you wouldn&#039;t even have any carrover pip charges. </p><p>What is wrong with this Strategy?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: 4 x 1 strategy]]></title>
			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/684/#p684</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Think of it another way. If you have only 10% losses, then the you can allow for larger drawdowns in those losses. Only take profit will do because you make max profits at around two levels 35 pips and 230 pips(use optimiser)</p><p>Also we use a very low leverage of 3:1 max. Meaning if you allow for three lots, and have an account of $10,000, you trade $ 10,000 lots only and that too only upto $ 30,000 ohnly. So even if you lose 300 pips on a bad trade your account is down only by 10% and thats not bad at all.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (viswadatta)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 04:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: 4 x 1 strategy]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>90% ? </p><p>Where does Forex Strategy Builder tell you this %? Is it possible to convert the Profits and Losses it gives to this %?</p><p>Also, the Expected Return is more important than the win %.&nbsp; If you only win 10% of the trades and your wins pay over&nbsp; 10 times your losses, then you are more profitable than winning 90 % of the time, but having wins pay only 10% that of losses.</p><p>I have played with the 4X1 strategy using FSB, but haven&#039;t found any combination of indicators that gave me near 90% wins, unless I only use &#039;Take Profits&#039;, which is risky because of possible large losses if that currency is suddenly devalued&nbsp; and will take forever to regain its previous price.</p><p>I realize you probably already know these things and have more Forex experience than I do. I am only pointing out these things for the benefit of other newbies.</p><p>Thank You for your suggestions.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (dan9mar)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: 4 x 1 strategy]]></title>
			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/681/#p681</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>The 1% refers to take profit (usually 35 pips) at a gearing of not more than 3:1! 100:1 is absurd, a sure way to go bankrupt.<br />Another aspect of the 4 x 1 strategy is that you win 90% of your trades. I have not seen any other system with this win ratio.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (viswadatta)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[4 x 1 strategy]]></title>
			<link>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/620/#p620</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I received a strategy called 4 x 1 strategy, that can be used in the forex market</p><p>1. Trade one currency pair only<br />2. Trade in one direction only(long or short depending on which currency is doing well, eg trade against the dollar today as it is having a downward trand today against the euro, chf, etc. Use fundamental analysis for picking the currency trend)<br />3. Trade one lot only at a time<br />4. 1% of your account in a transaction(this could go upto 10% if you want to take additional risk)</p><p>This strategy generates profits every time, in every currency pair<br />Leverage should never be more than 10:1 although fx allows upto 400:1, leverage can kill any trader mighty quick</p><p>More has been mentioned in the book &quot; Bird watching in Lion country&quot;</p><p>The entry strategy can be decided by the trader(I prefer donchian break outs), this system gives the rules for trading discipline</p><p>Happy trading and testing</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (viswadatta)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 04:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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