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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It is my understanding you created FSBpro and EA Studio because you found weaknesses in the MetaTrader backtesters and wanted to develop a better backtester.&nbsp; If FSBpro and EA Studio are better backtesters than MetaTrader then I would prefer to use them to do my backtesting.&nbsp; What I am trying to figure out is which of the two, FSBpro or EA Studio, is the best backtester to use if I use EA Studio to create my EAs.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alann]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/14347/</uri>
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			<updated>2023-10-20T10:24:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>At first sight it might add to confusion, but in reality it underlines a very important factor of spread. The balance line is accurate, the question is if it represents a realistic outcome of actual market conditions taking into consideration the changing value of spread. One way or another it is better to use higher spread value.</p><p>This site offers good insight into spread history: <a href="https://www.oanda.com/us-en/trading/historical-spreads/">https://www.oanda.com/us-en/trading/historical-spreads/</a></p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Alann wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I guess I am still a little confused and I hope you can help me to see clearly.</p><p>I understand that in EA Studio if I use the Dynamic Spread option then the balance line will be more realistic than without the Dynamic Spread option box checked.&nbsp; However, when I leave the Dynamic Spread option box unchecked then the EA created by EA Studio has a similar balance line as to the balance line in FSBpro when I upload the same EA into FSBpro.&nbsp; So in this case I understand that neither EA Studio or FSBpro balance lines are accurate.</p><p>Now here is where I get confused:&nbsp; When I upload the EA that was created in EA Studio is uploaded into FSBpro I understand the balance line is not the most accurate it looks the same as the balance line in EA Studio when the Dynamic Spread box is unchecked.&nbsp; If this is the case then when I create an EA using FSBpro how can I feel confident its balance line is accurate?&nbsp; This is confusing to me!</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[footon]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/1242/</uri>
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			<updated>2023-10-20T09:54:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Nothing changes in the workflow.</p><p>My usual procedure is the following:<br /> - examine the trading rules for contradictions. (Example: close long when RSI crosses 90 upwards.)<br /> - examine strategies with a too-good-to-be-true balance curve even further.<br /> - test the strategy in MetaTrader. (now prefer MT5). If there is a too-big discrepancy, the strategy is questionable.<br /> - demo or live trading with a minimal amount for three weeks. Acceptable performance is the most critical factor.</p><p>We never know which strategies will perform best in the market.<br />I have many cases when I create a simple strategy to test some behaviour, which performs amazingly well.</p><p>However, recently, I changed my approach. I prefer a pool of thousands of strategies per chosen market and revalidate them with Express Generator on newer data.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Popov]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/2/</uri>
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			<updated>2023-10-20T06:34:25Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77236/#p77236</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am still a little confused and I hope you can help me to see clearly.</p><p>I understand that in EA Studio if I use the Dynamic Spread option then the balance line will be more realistic than without the Dynamic Spread option box checked.&nbsp; However, when I leave the Dynamic Spread option box unchecked then the EA created by EA Studio has a similar balance line as to the balance line in FSBpro when I upload the same EA into FSBpro.&nbsp; So in this case I understand that neither EA Studio or FSBpro balance lines are accurate.</p><p>Now here is where I get confused:&nbsp; When I upload the EA that was created in EA Studio is uploaded into FSBpro I understand the balance line is not the most accurate it looks the same as the balance line in EA Studio when the Dynamic Spread box is unchecked.&nbsp; If this is the case then when I create an EA using FSBpro how can I feel confident its balance line is accurate?&nbsp; This is confusing to me!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alann]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/14347/</uri>
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			<updated>2023-10-19T13:41:17Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77232/#p77232</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Everything seems to be working now!</p><p>If I understand you correctly the balance line in EA Studio when using Dynamic Spread is a more realistic than the balance line in FSBpro.</p><p>Thanks for being very responsive to resolving this issue and in answering all my questions quickly.</p><p>Alan,</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alann]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/14347/</uri>
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			<updated>2023-10-17T15:47:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Reload EA Studio with Ctrl+F5. The latest version is &quot;v23.10.17&quot;.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Popov]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/2/</uri>
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			<updated>2023-10-17T15:22:59Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77181/#p77181</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am having issues with EA Studio.&nbsp; Here is the version number: Expert Advisor Studio (EA Studio)&nbsp; v23.10.12.</p><p>The image of EA Studio above where the balance line shows big drawdown followed by a rally is with the Dynamic Spread turned off.&nbsp; Is this the correct balance line with the Dynamic Spread turned off?</p><p>Also when I turn Dynamic Spread &quot;on&quot; and go to a different tab and then come back to Tools the Dynamic Spread check box is again unchecked.&nbsp; It will not remain checked.&nbsp; Because of this I cannot view the balance line with the Dynamic Spread enabled.&nbsp; What am I doing wrong?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alann]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/14347/</uri>
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			<updated>2023-10-17T12:43:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>EA Studio closes the positions at the next bar&#039;s Open. On the other hand, FSB Pro closes them at the same bar&#039;s Clase price.</p><p>This execution difference causes different results.</p><p>Another difference is that EA Studio uses Dynamic Spread by default.<br />You can switch it off from <strong>Tools</strong> -&gt; <strong>Settings</strong>. The option is called &quot;Use dynamic spread&quot;.</p><br /><p>Besides these differences, I think everything is fine in the latest versions.</p><p>FSB Pro exports its own experts that work correctly with its logic.<br />EA Studio exports other experts who resemble its logic.</p><p>Both programs work similarly but not in the absolutely same way.</p><p>We have the same count of trades, the same chart shape and a very similar performance (dough Dynamic spread is off)</p><p><a href="https://image-holder.forexsb.com/store/eas-vs-fsb-nov-2023-foo-bar.png"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://image-holder.forexsb.com/store/eas-vs-fsb-nov-2023-foo-bar-thumb.png" alt="https://image-holder.forexsb.com/store/eas-vs-fsb-nov-2023-foo-bar-thumb.png" /></span></a></p><p>EA Studio is more reliable in that case because it can use a Dynamic spread and shows a more realistic result.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Popov]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/2/</uri>
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			<updated>2023-10-17T12:00:30Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77179/#p77179</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Again I have loaded an EA (same link as above) created by EA Studio into EA Studio and into FSBpro.&nbsp; I have not used any filtering such as Acceptance Criteria or Monte Carlo or optimizations.&nbsp; No filtering at all.&nbsp; Both use Premium Data and Symbol settings are the same.&nbsp; No commissions.&nbsp; Date is the same for both.&nbsp; When I look at the balance line of EA Studio I see a&nbsp; large draw down followed by a rally, when I look at the balance line of FSBpro I see a nice upward trend.&nbsp; I still see quite a difference in the two balance lines and the final profit is also quite different.&nbsp; I would have expected the results of both these backtests to be similar.</p><p>Which is the more accurate, EA Studio or FSBpro.</p><p>EA Studio count of trades = 18<br />FSBpro executed orders&nbsp; =&nbsp; 24</p><p>Note:&nbsp; FSBpro did not update its version number when it was launched.&nbsp; I had to install the latest version over it to get the latest version.</p><br /><p><a href="https://ibb.co/RyFWm6W"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/sHfrG1r/EA-STUDIO-EURGBP-M15-Screenshot-2023-10-17-061010.png" alt="https://i.ibb.co/sHfrG1r/EA-STUDIO-EURGBP-M15-Screenshot-2023-10-17-061010.png" /></span></a><br /><a href="https://ibb.co/m8yN6wJ"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/vYdXZG1/FSBPRO-EURGBP-M15-Screenshot-2023-10-17-060807.png" alt="https://i.ibb.co/vYdXZG1/FSBPRO-EURGBP-M15-Screenshot-2023-10-17-060807.png" /></span></a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Alann]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/14347/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2023-10-17T11:18:53Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77178/#p77178</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77144/#p77144" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The issue is fixed in FSB Pro v4.3.1.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Popov]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/2/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2023-10-16T18:12:53Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77144/#p77144</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77139/#p77139" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It looks like the bug still persists in the released FSB Pro version. </p><p>I&#039;ll examine it further.</p><p>Edit.</p><p>FSB Pro still does not set the Pip value correctly for the Premium Data feed. I&#039;ll fix it later today.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Popov]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/2/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2023-10-16T14:06:54Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77139/#p77139</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77135/#p77135" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I just uploaded the new FSB Pro v4.3</p><p>It will be automatically updated on the next start (however, it checks for updates once per 24 hours)</p><p>You can also download and install the new version over your current installation.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Popov]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/2/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2023-10-16T13:55:40Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77135/#p77135</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77127/#p77127" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>How do I update FSBpro with the new fix?</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Alann]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/14347/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2023-10-16T09:56:35Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77127/#p77127</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77106/#p77106" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The noted discrepancy results from a bug in FSB Pro introduced in the last release. It fails to set the symbols&#039; &quot;Pip&quot; property.<br />The &quot;Cancel Color&quot; indicator uses this property to calculate the minimal candle height.</p><p>I&#039;ll release a fix on Sunday evening.</p><p>Thank you for the report!</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Popov]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/2/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2023-10-14T21:01:34Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77106/#p77106</id>
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		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: EA Studio vs FSBpro Complete Opposite Analysis]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have again loaded an EA (same link as above) created by EA Studio into EA Studio and into FSBpro.&nbsp; I have not used any filtering such as Acceptance Criteria or Monte Carlo or optimizations.&nbsp; No filtering at all.&nbsp; Both use Premium Data and Symbol settings are the same.&nbsp; No commissions.&nbsp; Date is the same for both.&nbsp; When I look at the balance line of EA Studio I see a&nbsp; large draw down followed by a rally, when I look at the balance line of FSBpro I see a downward trend.&nbsp; I would expect these to testers to have similar backtest.&nbsp; What is going on?</p><p>EA Studio count of trades = 19<br />FSBpro executed orders&nbsp; = 112</p><br /><p><a href="https://ibb.co/HrYJ1xt"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/CnvrNMb/EA-Studio-Screenshot-2023-10-14-132422.png" alt="https://i.ibb.co/CnvrNMb/EA-Studio-Screenshot-2023-10-14-132422.png" /></span></a></p><p><a href="https://ibb.co/t4RfYDV"><span class="postimg"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/nbp2Qjx/FSBpro-Screenshot-2023-10-14-132603.png" alt="https://i.ibb.co/nbp2Qjx/FSBpro-Screenshot-2023-10-14-132603.png" /></span></a></p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Alann]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/14347/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2023-10-14T18:41:25Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/77103/#p77103</id>
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