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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to avoid curve fitting over optimization]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Some generals tips to avoid curve fitting. Not all tools are applicable for all types of trading/strategies. Use when required. Some may or may not be available in EA Studio</p><p>- Monte Carlo testing<br />- Walk Forward Testing<br />- Increase sample size<br />- Reduce the degrees of freedom of steps for SL, TP, indicators etc. For example, minimum ATR step of 0.5 (0.5, 1, 1.5 etc).<br />- Round values to nearest 5, 10, logical number etc. For e.g, if a SL is 197, round it to 200. Is it still profitable?<br />- Apply strategy to multiple time frames, broker data and instruments.<br />- Use (and understand how to use) OOS/IS.</p><p>Ultimately it is very hard to avoid curve fitting and generally you will require further analysing post-generation in the live environment.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[burrup.lambert]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-06-26T18:15:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to avoid curve fitting over optimization]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi double OOS don´t help so&nbsp; much.</p><p>For example:<br />I generate 1000 Strategies.<br />The first OOS filter remove 500 Strategies 1000-500=500<br />The second OOS filter half of this strategies 500-250=250</p><p>In the rest pool are too much curvefitted strategies.</p><p>The best way is to find a good generation setting. Choose the optimal indicators and SL TP settings.<br />OOS filter, Walkforward and Montecarlo are tools to decrease the curvefitting a little, but don´t solve this problem.</p><p>I think the best way is to use an optimal setting.<br />Choose strategies with many trades, more trades means less curvefitting.</p><p>for example:<br />You have an trading idear, you can set your indicators<br />You need good knowledge in forex and trading to use optimal settings.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tnickel]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-04-02T20:54:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: How to avoid curve fitting over optimization]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You can do double OOS validation</p><p>Cut the historical data, for example the end date would be 12-31-2018, and then you can set OOS percentage and set the acceptance criteria for the OOS data.</p><p>After you get the strategies you can revalidate them again with uncut/whole historical data.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[yonkuro]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-02-27T16:06:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[How to avoid curve fitting over optimization]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p><p>did you have some tricks or settings to avoid over optimization and or curve fitting?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Roughey]]></name>
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			<updated>2021-02-26T12:28:31Z</updated>
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