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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Portfolio calculation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>GD wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So, theoretically, if I would have traded the portfolio over the two years on one MT4 account, where all strategies have the same account balance to go from, I would make 1000 x 4.95 x 5.35 €. That would amount to 26482 €.</p><p>I think&nbsp; 1000 x 4.95 x 5.35 € is not correct. Please think more about it</p></blockquote></div><p>What&#039;s wrong about it?</p><br /><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Popov wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you use sever strategy they will commit their profit/loss to the common account. If you use &quot;Account percent entry&quot; for the entry amount, it means that the entry amount a strategy is determined by the account amount. <br />Lets take the following case:<br />We have starting balance of 1000 euro and two strategy. The entry amount is % of the account equal to 0.1 lot at the beginning.<br />Let&#039;s the first strategy makes a huge profit and double the account to 2000 euro.<br />Let&#039;s the second strategy trade evenly. <br />It appears at the end of the period that the second strategy will trade 0.2 lots (because the account is doubled) despite the fact that it didn&#039;t make any profit.</p><p>We see that the &quot;Account percent entry&quot; may not work as we expect when we trade multiple strategies. I&#039;m not aware of a tool that can simulate such backtets.</p></blockquote></div><p>I get what you&#039;re saying. And that&#039;s how I would expect the Portfolio function to work. But it appears to not work that way at all. As I said, I use &quot;Account percent entry&quot; for all my strategies, that&#039;s why I would expect, if a portfolio doubles from 2010 to 2011 and doubles again from 2011 to 2012, that it quadruples if I test it from 2010 to 2012. But that just isn&#039;t happening in the Portfolio function (see my original post). Maybe I&#039;m missing something here, not feeling too sharp today.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hannes]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-01-07T21:25:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Portfolio calculation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If you use sever strategy they will commit their profit/loss to the common account. If you use &quot;Account percent entry&quot; for the entry amount, it means that the entry amount a strategy is determined by the account amount. <br />Lets take the following case:<br />We have starting balance of 1000 euro and two strategy. The entry amount is % of the account equal to 0.1 lot at the beginning.<br />Let&#039;s the first strategy makes a huge profit and double the account to 2000 euro.<br />Let&#039;s the second strategy trade evenly. <br />It appears at the end of the period that the second strategy will trade 0.2 lots (because the account is doubled) despite the fact that it didn&#039;t make any profit.</p><p>We see that the &quot;Account percent entry&quot; may not work as we expect when we trade multiple strategies. I&#039;m not aware of a tool that can simulate such backtets.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Popov]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-01-07T16:46:07Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Portfolio calculation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So, theoretically, if I would have traded the portfolio over the two years on one MT4 account, where all strategies have the same account balance to go from, I would make 1000 x 4.95 x 5.35 €. That would amount to 26482 €.</p><p>I think&nbsp; 1000 x 4.95 x 5.35 € is not correct. Please think more about it</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[GD]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-01-07T05:54:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Portfolio calculation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Blaiserboy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Are you trading real account at this time?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hannes]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-01-06T19:15:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Portfolio calculation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Are you trading real account at this time?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Blaiserboy]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-01-06T18:52:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Portfolio calculation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Blaiserboy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As far as the Portfolio goes, I do not think it really essential at this point</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, I disagree. Diversification through several strategies is a crucial practice for safe trading and a proper Portfolio functionality would help tremendously with that. Of course, one could probably do it manually in Excel or otherwise, but that&#039;s one heck of a time commitment.&nbsp; </p><p> I&#039;m still curious what Popov would answer to my original post.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hannes]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-01-06T18:45:39Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Portfolio calculation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The Portfolio function is very basic at this point, I am sure that on his to-do list Popov plans a modification at some time.</p><p>There is always going to be more features to add to FSBPro and Popov is working to add things here and there.</p><p>As far as the Portfolio goes, I do not think it really essential at this point as we have the facility to do forward testing and walk forward analysis&nbsp; which should be adequate for most users.</p><p>I have looked at softwares that cost far more than FSBPro and those do not have a good Portfolio feature.</p><p>I do know that Popov is aware of Portfolio shortcomings and I believe he will remedy that at some time.</p><p>You may be able to use Excel to achieve your goal, I am not sure.</p><p>You do have the option now of loading your strategies for the longer period, one at a time and calculating whatever.</p><p>Myself, I have quite a few strategies on MT4 demo and periodically pick a couple to go to my real account, that seems to work fine.</p><p>Oner thing that is certain, until a stratgey is trading on a real account, you will never know if it is any good, all the forecasting and backtesting and analysis will not guarantee the future...., maybe a complex porfolio calculation is not really worth the effort.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Blaiserboy]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-01-05T00:25:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Portfolio calculation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Blaiserboy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I do not know of any software that will calculate the portfolio as it advances.</p></blockquote></div><p>Isn&#039;t that exactly what the &quot;Portfolio&quot; function of our beloved FSB is supposed to do?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hannes]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-01-05T00:00:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Portfolio calculation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I do not know of any software that will calculate the portfolio as it advances.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Blaiserboy]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-01-04T23:39:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Portfolio calculation]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have a very simple but critical question/problem. A portfolio isn&#039;t calculated, as if all the strategies were traded on <strong>one</strong> MT4 account. I&#039;ll explain it with a real example:</p><p>I have a portfolio of several strategies, that makes 1000 € into 4948 € in 2010 (1.1.2010 to 1.1.2011). So a factor of <strong>4.95</strong>. </p><p>Now, changing the Data Horizon to the next year (so 1.1.2011 to 1.1.2012) the portfolio goes from 1000 € to 5352 €. That&#039;s a factor of <strong>5.35</strong>. So far so good. Important: I use percentages everywhere. No fixed lot positions in any strategy.&nbsp; </p><p>So, theoretically, if I would have traded the portfolio over the two years on <strong>one</strong> MT4 account, where all strategies have the same account balance to go from, I would make 1000 x 4.95 x 5.35 €. That would amount to 26482 €. </p><p>But when I change the Data Horizon from 1.1.2010 to 1.1.2012 the balance of the portfolio is only 11938 €. That&#039;s the problem. And the profits of each year aren&#039;t added linearly either (which shouldn&#039;t happen anyway), since that would make 4948 + 5352 = 10300 € (and would require two seperate accounts of 1000 € each, which doesn&#039;t seem to be the case in the portfolio calculation, since it starts at 1000 €). So there is some correlation I&#039;m not aware of. More importantly, it makes me question the maximal DD of the portfolio. </p><p>Hannes</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Hannes]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-01-04T20:23:41Z</updated>
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