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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I use the combination approach, I am not skilled enopugh to make pefect strategies, I look for some good numbers in a strategy and do not worry too much about all of the metrics......</p><p>I try to have many strategies trading and the combined equity line is where the action is..... if there is an upward slope, I am quite pleased.</p><p>For some reason, I find that I have a ton to learn re strategy development...&nbsp; and I really appreciate your discussion in this thread..</p><p>Happy Weekend!!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Blaiserboy]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-07-03T12:07:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have been doing a bit like you building strategies in three groups (Trend, Consolidating and Breakout) but never been able to run them long enough to know if they have been working good together.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zpoken]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-07-02T21:01:25Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I do have a live experience with running several (from 2 up to 30!) strategies simultaneously. See e.g. here:</p><p><a href="http://forexsb.com/forum/post/30120/#p30120">http://forexsb.com/forum/post/30120/#p30120</a></p><p>From here I can write about existing strengths and weaknesses. </p><p>The examples from my previous post should mainly stress my opinion that the automation of creating the Strategy Portfolio would be much helpful in finding a really well diversified and robust trading system.</p><p>If you have a look at the last example before the end of the article, I bet that the majority of traders would never trade any of the 3 individual strategies. But still, if put together, they were able to create an agreeable equity of the whole portfolio. Now imagine that for example the 1st ugly equity represents a trendfollowing system, the 2nd ugly one a breakout (or false-breakout) system and the 3rd ugly one a system for choppy markets with lower volatility. Like in real markets - no individual strategy brings profits all the time; every strategy has&nbsp; its strong and weak periods. But when you put them together you can achieve a perfectly diversified and robust overall strategy.</p><p>Now back to FSB. Most of the time I have used the Generator for searching new profitable strategies. I run it many times, with different settings. Thus I obtain hundreds of individual strategies. In order to be able to work with them in a more detail later, I need to strongly reduce their number first. You can imagine that I only keep strategies with &quot;nice&quot; reasonable equities; the rest of strategies with &quot;ugly&quot; equities are thrown away.</p><p>Theoretically this proces has sense = if you take several nice strategies and make a well diversified portfolio by puting them together, you should obtain a robust winning overall system. Unfortunately, my experience says that this is valid only in backtests, but not necessarily also in live trading. </p><p>Therefore I now tend to combine strategies generated by FSB with &quot;nice&quot; equities with clearly defined hand-made strategies that often show rather &quot;ugly&quot; equities, to create a more robust overall trading strategy. Here I would see the big advantage of the automated creation of Strategy Portfolio - a human brain and restricted time for work cannot compete with powerful computer processors.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[bold]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-07-01T18:40:19Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><strong>Bold,</strong> <br />the examples on the Czech server,&nbsp; is it backtesting only (I dont understand Czech)? <br />Anyone have live experience from running several strategies that have been combined&nbsp; in the portfolio or in a similar way?&nbsp; Is it a good way of thinking?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zpoken]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-07-01T17:02:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Still an example from a Czech server, how even several weaker individual strategies can optimally corelate and create a tradable portfolio when put together:</p><p><a href="http://www.financnik.cz/komodity/zkusenosti/jak-si-v-trzich-zajistit-stabilni-prijmy.html">http://www.financnik.cz/komodity/zkusen … rijmy.html</a></p><p>You need not read the text, just see the 3 examples of equity curves - first three are always individual strategies and bellow is the resulting portfolio. Most extreme is the last example.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-07-01T12:49:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@ zpoken - to your 1st post:</p><p>I proceed in a similar way as you. I trade a portfolio of several simpler strategies,&nbsp; assembled together with the help of Strategy Portfolio. This is a very important tool for me that I use all the time, even if it currently works only in a basic manual/visual mode. In the &quot;drawer&quot; I have a cache of several tens/hundreds of (mostly generated) simpler strategies. These are used when I need to replace a problematic strategy in the trading portfolio or when I need to add another strategy (when the account equity grows). Thus you can perfectly fine tune your overall RM/MM.</p><p>The weak point of the current state of the current Strategy Portfolio is that you need to search for fitting portfolio of strategies manualy/visually, which is often rather exhausting.</p><p>For this reason I wish Mr. Popov will be willing to add the &quot;automated&quot; Strategy Portfolio feature in next FSB releases. This would allow to generate a Repository of optimal portfolios with required RM/MM parameters.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2015-07-01T12:47:06Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>And the most importend test is to check the strategy with unseen data.<br />You can generate from 2006-2012 and check with data from 2012-2015.</p></blockquote></div><p>The Generator&#039;s OOS does exactly that.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Popov]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-07-01T12:40:23Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>zpoken<br />And the most importend test is to check the strategy with unseen data.<br />You can generate from 2006-2012 and check with data from 2012-2015.</p><p>thomas</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tnickel]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-07-01T11:08:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I suggest that you attempt to use &#039;Multi Markets&#039; on simple or complex strategies to see what happens with whatever you develop.</p><p>Both may&nbsp; pass or fail the test.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Blaiserboy]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-07-01T07:34:00Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tnickel<br />yes, you are right. Curvefitting is there all the time and I meant that I use as few slots as possible to hopefully find more robust Strategies. </p><p>I was twisting my head about if I find one very robust strategy with 8 slots (probably impossible) and I compare with running 8 separate strategies with just 1 slot where each one of them are robust (all in the same instrument).</p><p>I think you gave me the answer already. It all comes back to robustness, and using one or two slots.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zpoken]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-07-01T06:44:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi zpocken,<br />less slots is no garantee for&nbsp; no curvefitting.<br />Curvefitting exists all time.</p><p>To avoid curvefitting it is good to make Robustnesstest and Tests with different currency pairs.<br />Only one or two slots.</p><p>You can combine strategies in a portfolio. But it will not better if the single strategies are curvefitted.</p><p>thomas</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[tnickel]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-06-29T15:14:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Combining several strategies, Curvefitting?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>A question for anyone. I am always avoiding too many logic slots so I will not do curvefitting. But I like to have many strategies and then combine in the Strategy Portfolio&quot; to do good combinations. Would you consider that as a way of curvefitting too? I know there is a lot of if´s, because you can combine in a lot of different ways. One way to argue is that combining many separate strategies will give you a better edge. I dont think there is a simple answer, but it would be interesting to hear your opinion.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[zpoken]]></name>
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			<updated>2015-06-27T20:03:47Z</updated>
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