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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SpiderMan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There are 16 WTF indicators including moving average. I presume the 200 limit applies not to the base time frame but to the wider time frame selected. So for instance if you are working on a 1 min time frame and select a 5 min wider time frame reference then that would be equivalent to a 1000 limit. At 1 hour that would be a 12,000 limit etc.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>Like I mentioned previously if trader wants to simulate H1 time frame on M5 time frame and on H1 he uses 200 MA than on M5 it will be equivalent to ~2400. But because of this hard limit he can use only MAX of 200.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chief2000]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/1314/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T23:36:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There are 16 WTF indicators including moving average. I presume the 200 limit applies not to the base time frame but to the wider time frame selected. So for instance if you are working on a 1 min time frame and select a 5 min wider time frame reference then that would be equivalent to a 1000 limit. At 1 hour that would be a 12,000 limit etc.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SpiderMan]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/4094/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T23:01:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>SpiderMan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Speaking of WTF. </p><p>Cheif2000, won&#039;t the WTF Moving Average Crossover do what you want ?</p></blockquote></div><p>Moving Averages Crossover is built from two or more Moving Averages, which also need to be optimized and have the same limitation of MAX 200.<br />And Moving Average was only one example and issue among many, some of which were described above.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chief2000]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T22:33:49Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of WTF. </p><p>Cheif2000, won&#039;t the WTF Moving Average Crossover do what you want ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SpiderMan]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T22:03:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>mentosan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>WTF are we discussing here? All from this forum are happy but not you chief2000. I bet that you are also very pessimistic in your life ... <img src="https://forexsb.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> I have an advice for you. Take it easy and admit that not everything in life can be 100% positive. You have to accomodate with this...</p></blockquote></div><p>Who&nbsp; are you to talk about me?</p><br /><p>&#039;Please refrain from abusive language in posts.&#039;</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chief2000]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/1314/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T21:50:18Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/13814/#p13814</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Every software available has its own persona, its own advantages and its own lacks, we have to learn to adjust to the software we are using, complaining is not productive.</p><p>We keep asking the developer to make modifications and he attempts to comply, there is soon going to be a revision which will add some great features for analysis... that is very important and useful to all.</p><p>Because this is an open source project, anyone can make modifications and adjust their copy of the software to their preference.... and if the modification will suit the community it will be added by the developer.</p><br /><p>What more can we expect.?</p><p>Trading is a &#039;do it yourself&#039; business and a &#039;learn it yourself&#039; business. In this community are many people who have contributed some excellent ideas.</p><p>I am not too sure that there is another software that is accommodating as this...!!!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Blaiserboy]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/2491/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T20:25:26Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>WTF are we discussing here? All from this forum are happy but not you chief2000. I bet that you are also very pessimistic in your life ... <img src="https://forexsb.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> I have an advice for you. Take it easy and admit that not everything in life can be 100% positive. You have to accomodate with this...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[mentosan]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/2989/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T19:42:47Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>There are other softwares for preparing Ea&#039;s, some of them are &#039;Point &amp; Click&#039; for the logic and they create the code for you.</p><p>Perhaps you should invest in a software of this type and that would resolve all of your difficulties.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Blaiserboy]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T17:04:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Popov wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>99% of Moving Averages using worldwide are with period of less than 200. If we make the period unlimited, we have to set such limits in the generator. If not, if you have 50 000 bars, Generator may choose MA with period of 49 998 and to leave 2 bars for backtesting <img src="https://forexsb.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />.<br />If we set limit to 3000, only 1/10th of MAs will have period of less than 300. This will make it practically unusable.</p><p>FSB is intended to be easy for most of the users. Advanced users and coders knows how to adapt the software for his needs.</p></blockquote></div><p>95% of traders lose money..<br />If the issue would be only with Moving Average and only in Generator it would not be so critical.<br />But you force Hard Limits in Optimizer (and not with Moving Averages only), where only users should decide what parameters and limits are good for them.<br />In the worst case you could add a global variable in FSB and let users to chose desired limits (change it when necessary) and everybody would be happy.</p><p>The same problem with the amount of intrabars, but at least in this case the solution is simple.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chief2000]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T14:54:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>99% of Moving Averages using worldwide are with period of less than 200. If we make the period unlimited, we have to set such limits in the generator. If not, if you have 50 000 bars, Generator may choose MA with period of 49 998 and to leave 2 bars for backtesting <img src="https://forexsb.com/forum/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />.<br />If we set limit to 3000, only 1/10th of MAs will have period of less than 300. This will make it practically unusable.</p><p>FSB is intended to be easy for most of the users. Advanced users and coders knows how to adapt the software for his needs.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Popov]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/2/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T13:59:54Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/13790/#p13790</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>footon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>chief2000 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Do you think you said something clever?<br />Yes, I&#039;m using MetaTrader for programming Expert Advisors.</p></blockquote></div><p>Clever? Do you want to start an argument? You said it now yourself - you have sufficient knowledge of coding, this makes you far more capable than most of the users here in this forum!</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>What I meant is that FSB users should not be required to learn programming and look for complicated solutions, especially if the problems are obvious and can be easily fixed.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chief2000]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T12:46:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forexsb.com/forum/post/13785/#p13785" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>chief2000 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Do you think you said something clever?<br />Yes, I&#039;m using MetaTrader for programming Expert Advisors.</p></blockquote></div><p>Clever? Do you want to start an argument? You said it now yourself - you have sufficient knowledge of coding, this makes you far more capable than most of the users here in this forum!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[footon]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/1242/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T12:28:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>footon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>chief2000 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It will take less time to program Expert Adviser for MetaTrader</p></blockquote></div><p>What are you waiting for then?</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>6. I tried to optimize Donchian with a step of 5 from 5 to 200 (your HARD LIMIT AGAIN! Why?).<br />As result I&#039;ve got a value of &quot;[5&quot; , which is bug.</p></blockquote></div><p>No bug, it&#039;s intentional.</p></blockquote></div><p>Do you think you said something clever?<br />Yes, I&#039;m using MetaTrader for programming Expert Advisers. <br />I just wanted to check if FSB can be usable for this task and if some old issues were resolved.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chief2000]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/1314/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T11:59:10Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/13784/#p13784</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://forexsb.com/forum/post/13780/#p13780" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>chief2000 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It will take less time to program Expert Adviser for MetaTrader</p></blockquote></div><p>What are you waiting for then?</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>6. I tried to optimize Donchian with a step of 5 from 5 to 200 (your HARD LIMIT AGAIN! Why?).<br />As result I&#039;ve got a value of &quot;[5&quot; , which is bug.</p></blockquote></div><p>No bug, it&#039;s intentional.</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[footon]]></name>
				<uri>https://forexsb.com/forum/user/1242/</uri>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T11:02:22Z</updated>
			<id>https://forexsb.com/forum/post/13780/#p13780</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FSB - Several questions]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Popov wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If you want a MA with period of 3000, you&#039;ll need 3001 bars in order to receive the first MA value. <br />FSB will need to limit minimum number of bars to 3002 to ensure that the indicator will be calculated properly at least two times and to can calculate the logic. </p><p>If you want to remove the limits, make a custom MA. It will take you 1 minute if you are familiar with the process or 1 hour to learn how to do it.</p></blockquote></div><br /><p>My historical database includes data from 2001 up to 2011, so there enough bars.<br />The problem is that every indicator has limits like that and it is practically impossible to create custom versions for everything. <br />What Generator will use in its initial optimizations?<br />It will take less time to program Expert Adviser for MetaTrader, while the purpose of FSB is to allow users to perform fast checks without knowledge in programming.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[chief2000]]></name>
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			<updated>2012-04-10T09:06:29Z</updated>
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